[Lottery Larry]

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In the example of a 9 9 8 8 4 board any player holding a 98 would have an unbeatable hand. To say he has the "nuts" however is just false. The nuts on that hand of poker is 99.
... The nuts are defined by the board, NOT by hole cards.

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Wrong. While I agree that it may be overly liberal for someone to use unknown (to others) cards to define the nuts, your example is NOT acceptable.

If there is a 99883 board (to remove the SF) and you have in your hand 98, you have the nuts in any game without wild cards or multiple decks.

To argue the semantics in that scenario is stupid. By common acceptance, "the nuts" means a hand that can't be beaten, given the circumstances of that hand... it does not mean "possible hand combinations that can't occur."




And I'm someone who has argued that my using "I have the nut flush" holding 32s when there was NOT a SF or FH possible is legitimate, when I knew 100% that I wasn't going to be beaten by my opponents.

Not common, but acceptable enough under the circumstances at the time.

So, you won't want to talk to me :P