[Magellan]

Doc, can't you see that you need to be more "pushy" in these situations? I say that with caution because I absolutely do not mean bordering-on-rape-pushy so much as I'm-playing-the-game-pushy. Surely you're not waiting for her to say "I now give you permission to penetrate me", 'cause that's not how it works. When she comes out with a "not part of the deal" type of comment, that's the time to put the moves on. Tell her "yeah well the deal has changed, the old one wasn't working for me", and go for it. Tell her "I've grown those balls you mentioned, you're about to feel them". She's made it obvious that despite all the crap she talks about needing time etc. that all she wants is for you to put the moves on in "manly" fashion.

Seriously, how hard would it be to just go for it? Don't listen to what she is saying, answer her protests with some b-grade lines that would be at home in a porn flick, and physically push the point. If she responds in a way that seems like she genuinely isn't up for it then cool it, but everything you have mentioned so far is just game playing. I mean like seriously throw her on the bed/ground/whatever and start removing her clothes while telling her that enough is enough, you're finally gonna give her what she wants. You know her well enough to know the difference between her seriously putting the brakes on as opposed to just playing with you some more. If she is up for it, this physical/no-more-games approach will probably turn her on. You can't hedge your bets, you're gonna need a full-on approach to make it happen with this chick. In summary: SHE DOESN'T NEED MORE TIME, SHE JUST NEEDS YOU TO PUT THE MOVES ON IN AN ASSERIVE WAY.

As for this kinda thing:
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OK , then , here is what i want to know.

I am not rich. I am not incredibly handsome. I do aid her in homework, however that mostly consists of me yelling at her to turn off the TV and do the work or I'm leaving as opposed to doing her work for her / helping her get good grades on exams.

what reason does she have to almost continously make intentional appeals to my sex drive (including setting down ground rules about certain activities that may and may not occur if we end up screwing)? I can not believe that there is a part of a woman that could be this malicious for the sake of being this malicious.

if i had money, I could see it.

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Thinking about this is a waste of time for many reasons, but mainly because it only affects the outcome if YOU let it.

Doc, please do what it takes to bang this girl. I'm gonna have to bill you for medication I've started taking because of this thread if you don't wrap this up soon.