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maybe galfond, whom you say yourself is a great player

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I didn't say he was a great player, but based on what I've heard, I think he almost certainly is.



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you give good ol philly the excuse ... give me a break...you shouldn't have wasted our time in replying here

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You complain about how no one here is listening to what you have to say, and when I write out a respectful post explaining an alternative scenario, you complain I'm wasting everyone's time. That strikes me as hypocritical. You also imply I'm some kind of Phil G fanboy, which I'm not.



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i at least give the guy enough credit that he would and did listen to eli and sammy's discussion of the hand.

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You also call him disingenuous, so it's not a super-generous gesture on your part. It's pretty backhanded "credit."

Maybe Phil did listen but wasn't positive Eli was truthful. Do you always believe everyone has the hand they claimed they did? People lie about their hands all the time. I'm just giving Phil the benefit of the doubt and saying that maybe either (1) he really didn't hear because he was thinking about something else--the guy mucked half of a pot, so he's obviously not laserlike focused on the post-hand action 100% of the time, or (2) he did hear but just wants to see for sure. It's a hand where he was also making a point about pushing the river, so it wasn't just out of nowhere. Maybe he'll chime in.

It's a good read, but it's not like it was some ridiculous claim like "I knew 100% he had a straight flush." It seems totally plausible to me that a guy who plays for huge money for a living could read that one hand by Eli Elezra. To me, that seems more likely than Phil concocting a story about handreading to make a point to a bunch of people who mostly already believe he plays awesome. If you disagree, I guess we just disagree, but I am really trying to look at this from as unbiased and objective a point of view as I can.