[AlexM]

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Firstly and foremostly it never works because you are implicitly accepting the premise that whipping is a good thing.

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Complete and total nonsense.

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By "agreeing" to 6 whippings a week

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More nonsense. I'm not "agreeing" to anything by fighting to make things better.

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you muddy the waters so much that you can never return to our argument that whipping is evil.

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This argument was never left.

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If whipping is evil why did you accept 6?

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I didn't. I focused my energies on getting 1 day "whip free". In no way did I "accept" anything though. Next, I'll work on the next day.

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That is how the world works people react to certainty and black and white that's why the socialists are winning that's why the religious crazies are winning because they're certain. We need to be just as certain when we present these ideas and fudging around a 2% budget cut here or a 5% tax cut there isn't going to do anything whatsoever.

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And what is uncertain about saying that the federal government should not interfere in something? Seems pretty damned certain to me.

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Ron Paul can't fight the military industrial complex. Ron Paul won't be able to stop welfare think of the riots that would happen if he tried!

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Maybe not, but he can make things better.

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Meanwhile we've lost our moral high ground for nothing.

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More nonsense. No one has in any way given up the moral high ground.

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For worse than nothing because it moves us back.

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Nonsense x 123582650026502

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If you want to try and make thing a little easier for some people become and accountant and help people avoid their taxes.

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Useless.

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If you want to discuss politics and philosophy and actually try to make things better you have to be certain and committed and passionate in what you know to be true and never waiver for the easy and quick "solution" You have to shout at every opportunity THIS IS WRONG THIS IS IMMORAL until people start to believe you then you can start changing the world.

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Done.

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You have to give up the idea of seeing freedom in 10 years, 15 years because it'll never happen and by trying for it you're just pushing it further and further away.

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Done again.

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By taking the easy route you are helping to condemn another generation or 2 or 10 to the slavery of illusions and corruptions.

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BS. It's not the easy route, it's the only route, and walking down that path certainly is only going to make things better. Only by giving people freedom can you show them why freedom is better.