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Old 10-31-2007, 11:58 PM
Assani Fisher Assani Fisher is offline
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Default Re: Lakers and Bulls discussing Kobe trade daily

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And regarding a trade, I'd be willing to move some of these guys for a big man, but not a 2 guard. They are a dime a dozen. Elton, KG, Marion, yes. Kobe not so much. I used to agree with you guys that he's the best player out there and we need a superstar to win. Now seeing his behavior, you see how little I value him. I was willing to trade anyone on the roster for KG and still am. Bulls homer I am not.

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LOLOLOLOLOL....trading for Marion would be just about the worst thing the Bulls could do. First off, him and Deng are too similar. Secondly, they already have enough great all around players who struggle to create their own shot. They need someone who can score and who can get to the foul line and cause problems driving the ball or posting up.

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Wow are you serious? Yet another guy that can't see the forest. I agree we don't have guys that create their own shot RIGHT NOW. Deng is 22 bro. You think he'll never be able to create? LOL. I would take Marion, Elton or KG way before Kobe. Sorry. Oh and regarding Thabo, I don't see him as a future 2 but rather a 1. I like big point guards like Magic or Livingston. Thabo defensively would own any point guard in the league. His passing skills are very solid, even though you guys who have never seen him play would probably balk at that. His offense is not all the way there yet but who cares, that's not his job at the point.

Back to the trade. You guys think Kobe would be a better fit than KG, Elton, Marion or Gasol? Man I'd love to be in a real or fantasy league with you.

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Floyd,

I love Deng as a player. Just look at this comparison:

1st year in league(Kobe on left/Deng on right)
Age: 18/19
Minutes: 15:30/27:18
PPG: 7.6/11.7
APG: 1.3/2.2
Rebounds: 1.9/5.3
FG%: 41.7/43.4
FT%: 81.9/74.1
Steals: 0.7/0.8
Blocks: 0.3/0.4
TOs: 1.6/1.9

2nd year in league(Kobe on left/Deng on right)
Age: 19/20
Minutes: 26:00/33:23
Points: 15.4/14.3
Assists: 2.5/1.9
Rebounds3.1/6.6
FG%:42.8/46.3
FT%: 79.4/75.0
Steals: 0.9/0.9
Blocks: 0.5/0.6
TOs: 2.0/1.4

3rd year in league(Kobe on left/Deng on right)
Age: 20/21
Minutes: 37:53/37:30
Points: 19.9/18.8
Assists: 3.8/2.5
Rebounds: 5.3/7.1
FG%: 46.5/51.7
FT%: 83.9/77.7
Steals: 1.4/1.2
Blocks: 1.0/0.6
TOs: 3.1/1.9




However, you're overrating nearly every other Bulls player. Moreover, you're ignoring the fact that its best to have a wider age range. While their youth is good for trade purposes, its not good for winning purposes. All of these guys are eventually going to want to get paid. Some like Gordon are going to want to be overpaid.

You have a chance to get one of the top 3 players in the league. He fits your needs perfectly because he can create his own shot. And he doesn't hurt you on D at all(he actually makes your awesome defensive team even better).

Unless you make a move for a guy like Kobe, you're going to continually be in this good but not great stage. You'll be forced to lose some players(Artest, Brand, Chandler, Curry) anyway, so you might as well just get trade value for them and make a legit run at a title for 5+ years.

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