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Old 03-17-2006, 04:51 PM
grapabo grapabo is offline
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Default Re: Did I overcount my outs?

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To be honest, this was in the middle of a bad night, and my guess of my op flopping the flush was in part due to the pessimism about some of the online poker hands. It gets exasperating flopping top pair with your AK and spewing until you realize your op flopped an AA333 full house.

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So much for your defense of your hand-reading skills. If your opponent flopped the AA333 boat then your AK must have flopped better than top-pair [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. And, putting a Villan on a specific hand because he 3-bets a flop, just because the flop is scary, is not hand-reading, it's MUBS. I've seen Vills 3-bet this same flop with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]...hell, I might do that myself, depending on what I thought of you.

And, grapabo, this thread is as results-oriented as it gets. Your call-down was correct. Not capping the flop and raising the turn was incorrect.

Here's a thought problem for you: everything is the same in your hand; the action on the flop goes: check, check, check, check, Vill bets, you raise, 4 folds, Vill shows you 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and 3-bets, what's your plan for the rest of the hand? (Hint: you have to act on at least the flop and the turn.)

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Fair enough about the passivity; I could have worked harder to represent a higher flush. I realize that I may have some problems beyond this immediate hand, though. I played with a shorter-than-normal bankroll that doesn't allow room for the aggression you all suggested. If I fix that, I'll feel more comfortable.
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