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Old 10-26-2007, 01:17 AM
TxRedMan TxRedMan is offline
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Default Re: hit two pair turn check raise super DEEP

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10/20 NL
villain is tough and relative tight, a little tricky
hero has been playing LAG
Effective stacks are 7K

2 limps, villain in CO makes it 120, hero calls in BB with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 1 caller

Flop:
A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero bets 200, villain raises to 800, Hero calls
Turn:
8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, Villain bets 1400, Hero raises to 3K, villain goes all in, hero calls

thoughts on all streets appreciated. do you like my line on the turn?

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i wouldn't play the flop or turn like this.

leading $200 into $370 on the flop was intended for what purpose? i ask b/c you flat his 4-bet, which effectively has now simply bloated the pot with you being OOP and puts you at risk of getting blown off a hand that you'll want to take to showdown often. In addition to this, you've now increased the size of the pot which, for a lot of players, means they've put themselves in a spot where they feel priced in regardless and stack off later in the hand, etc, etc.

So why donk the flop if you're not going to re-raise? I dont suggest donking the flop, I would very very rarely ever do it in a spot like this, but if I did i'd intend on getting more money in if I got raised.


So i'd c/c the flop.

As played the turn becomes really hard to play correctly imo. I dont know how much fold equity you have here but I think the only hand you're beating is JsTs, so i'm going to go ahead and say you have little to no fold equity so you must be raising for value b/c you think he's capable of overplaying a hand that you're ahead of...but that doesn't match your description of him at all. If I was in this spot I'd just flat call the turn after that flop action and re-eval the river.


Seems like a classic example of taking a suited connector and kind of butchering it out of position.

Also, against a player like this with stacks of similar sizes, players often over estimate their implied odds. You dont become considered tough and tricky by your opponents in a 10/20 game by getting 300 BB's in on this turn w/ AK.




-Tex
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