[bernie]

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Ty was an OK gameday coach that fits well with a program like Stanford or Washington. Couldn't coach the offense worth a lick, and couldn't hire competent coordinators. His defenses were good and his special teams were decent.


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So far he's done a better job than Weis. He started with less and got more out of his players.

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If those had been remedied after say his 1st year and he became more of an ND coach, he likely would've been given a 4th year to see what he could do with his first recruiting class. He was not a fit with ND at all, and the 3 blowouts by USC sealed his fate. Everyone but the AD was glad to see him go.


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If Urban Meyer didn't express his desire to coach ND, Willingham would've likely got his extra year.

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His biggest off the field problems were (in order of importance): poor recruiting, no embracing of alumni/traditions, golfed constantly (to the point where it interfered with recruiting), and sounded like he was feeding everyone BS during his press conferences (once asked if he was a coach, he said thought of himself more as a "molder of men").


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And he was black.

Ty goes 8-0 his first year and gets a couple accolades.

Weis doesn't even have a recruiting class under his belt and he gets a 10 year extension(with Ty's guys). Sets records for ineptitude(with mostly his own guys) and there's hardly a grumble.

As far as developing players, no one can say how either of those guys would've been if Ty had stayed. College players can improve dramatically from year to year.

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