Re: A very interesting ethics situation and a Bellagio Floor ruling
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Also, I know it's kind of a side issue..but it really interests me..what if someone did bet 10k or something ridiculous and the opponent was ruled as having to pay..and he simply refused to pay and started leaving..?
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this same thing happened at the wynn and when a player was likely going to bet $800 on the river he announced $8000 when the other player called out of turn and they made him pay it.
i have a friend who has at the bellagio and got involved in an all-in pot where the other player had loaned his buddy next to him $1000 from his stack w/o announcing it to the table and only the dealer knew. (obv his buddy was waiting on chips) So they get it all-in and after my friend calls his all-in and loses the hand the other player tells him he had loaned his friend $1000 while waiting for chips. Floor rules it's in play despite it not being in front of him/no one at the table knowing except the dealer and the two players (sitting right next to eachother). The worst part iirc was that the player shoved his stack in the middle and announced all-in, so all of his chips in front of him were in the middle. Keep in mind that there's $100, $500 and $1,000 chips in this game so it's pretty easy to ship someone $1,000 w/o it being noticed. Floor ruled he had to pay it or be barred for life.
I would imagine that being barred from the poker room = barred from the casino, and depending on the operating company, maybe barred from all properties that company owns.
I want to clarify something in this thread.
Player one paused when player 2 checked the river. He thought for about 5 seconds then grabbed a stack of $20 chips and extended his arm to the middle of the table, crossing the betting line (although there isn't a 'line'), and in a very smooth and fluid motion began cutting the stack into $100 stacks. he didn't do it slowly, he did it at a normal pace, but not at a break-neck pace like an asian female limit hold'em player might cut chips. as soon as he finished cutting the second stack and was in that split second between finishing the second cut and about to begin cutting the third stack when player 2 announces "call". and it wasn't a meek "call". it was a frustrated and fast, louder than ordinary, "CALL". so player 2 called before the third stack had even hit the felt, thus about exactly in the middle of player 1's bet.
-Tex
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