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Old 10-17-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: Discussing athiesm today, how do I address this?

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Well, when a debate ensues most theists claim they believe in God for reasons a, b, and c. Most do not say "I believe for no reason" and if they did, it would be impossible to argue with. But, if you can disprove a, b, and c, you take away his reasons for believing, and leave him uttering "I have faith." In my mind, if you can get a theist into this corner, you have been won the argument.

Can someone address this, por favor:

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Thinking back on it, this is what seems to have happened. He starts asking me questions that I do not know the answer to, such as where the universe came from. When I reply "I do not know" it makes my ideas seem incomplete. People listen to him, and his idea's answer that question: "God created the universe." Observers think "Athiest 0, Thiest 1".

What went wrong? I can say, "Who created God?" They can answer "God has always existed." Then what? "What is God?" "God is the creator of the universe." "Oh." "Oh."

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How can I respond to "God has always existed"?

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You'd never be able to disprove my reasons a, b and c, or at least it would take you so long, so many words, and so many suppositions, that I would still win the debate.
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