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If you're not going to be satisfied with anything but a complete mea culpa on AP's part, you'd have a better chance waiting to see flying pigs and hell frozen over. You ahave to look at this from a realistic perspective, and what we can honestly expect and not expect from this.

Let's be serious, guys. The return of the money would mean far more than just a goodwill return of funds. If AP determines that they will suffer MORE from doing the right thing than their current platform of denial, then they will continue down the road of denial.

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Dan,
I could not disagree with you more on this. When a company commits fraud like this, or has practices that allow fraud to go unrecognized, that company must suffer for the betterment of the industry. Accepting a partial admission or apology from Absolute is to reward them for their cover up attempts, and not punish them to the extent that they deserve for their infractions. There is a very simple way to push for a full, or near full, admission. When you told them you would not play Absolute until this was resolved they took action. the same thing, but on a larger scale is needed. Everyone who is angry at this event needs to say "I won't play at Absolute without a full admission". Then they need to say "I will play again, consider playing again after that admission", the pain of lying needs to be greater than the pain of telling the truth, since it is the truth that we want.

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Why do I think lightning won't strike again? Everyone will be watching. Everyone will be suspicious. This whole thing almost brought them down once. Trust me -- if they get themselves out of this, there's no way they will ever risk this happening again. Even if security wasn't competent enough to catch this initially, you can bet they will make the necessary adjustments now.

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Your wrong, letting someone off to easy far more likely to cause a recurrence than pushing for full disclosure and full repercussions. When you reward people for lying you get more liars.