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My point is that on the one hand Clayton is saying you need to increase your red line to increase your green line, but on the other, that these good nitty TAGs get by just fine without putting themselves in that many red line situations. Right? I mean, they are 18/16 or even 15/12 nits...so why aren't they suffering the same fate as FGers?

Am I making any sense at all?

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I haven't fully evaluated clayton's post and I'm in a hurry now. But the thing is that you might misinterpret, what actually is part of the red line. People tell fgators that he always does the same thing: push it in with the hands that he thinks he is a favorite with (which will make him little money because everyone folds unless he is beaten and sometimes a fish calls and THEN the fish might suck out) or get to showdown as cheaply as possible and get pushed off the best hand all the time, never stab at a pot etc. etc. The red line isn't just "mixing it up" but getting value in marginal spots in general.