[CardSharpCook]

BTW, mt2r rocks as a poster though he consistently underrates the pac10. He has pretty clearly listed the obvious arguments for believing Bonds doped and knew it. I think RedBean is not so much arguing against this as he is trying to point out that Bonds was never found guilty of violating any MLB drug/steroid policy. He seems to be arguing from a legal standpoint, and not a rational standpoint. Luckily, Bonds isn't being charged with any criminal actions, so we can use logic and reason to judge him. Whether or not Bonds violated any MLB rule, it seems pretty clear the guy was doping. Doping and sports is bad, m'kay?