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Old 09-22-2007, 01:01 PM
friedace friedace is offline
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Default Re: 200: Warning: A Different Line with QQ

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Why no 3-bet preflop?

By only calling, you are giving him infinite odds to hit the flop. I don't think queens are a hand that you want to slowplay from start to finish.

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You aren't giving him any implied odds by calling. The reason is because u are calling with a wide range that consists of 22-AA AK AQs and suited connectors.

What you are however doing by coldcalling with QQ+ some of the time here, is depolarizing your range on the flop and turn. Where it once was underpair or set, a range that is very easy to play against from villains standpoint, now becomes underpair, set, top pair, overcards/draws, overpairs, a range that is much more tricky to optimally play against out of position.

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I agree with Renton. Also, if we 3bet to $24 preflop lets say, he has $269 in this stack, there is $35 in the pot, and we have him covered. He has to call $16 to win $304, or 19:1. So, another downside of 3betting is bloating the pot and giving him perfect stack odds, which lets him stack us easily. With a call, we control the pot, can let him bluff of money, and can fold if he show read strength.

I tend to follow NLHETP advice which suggests calling with QQ pf most of the time, and reraising about 10-20% of the time and this is a good example of when calling is beneficial.

It seems like most people think QQ or AK is an automatic 3bet preflop like 90% of the time. I don't think this is so, but I'd like to hear the arguments in favor of this approach and maybe comments on the advantages of calling that have been discussed above.

friedace
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