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No non-christian scholars believe that 'jesus of the bible' existed ... Or Else They Would Be Christians.
The possible 'poor slob jesus', hut builder, that may have existed never influenced anyone.

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I believe he was a real and highly influential person (not a christian).

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Count me in. That's 2. (I am not Christian.)

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So you believe both that there was a real person named Jesus AND that this very same real person performed all of those miracles and said all of those things? Because if you are ignoring or rejecting the miracles, you should probably be ignoring or rejecting all the wonderful things he said and his message...since they come from the same source.

Tacitus and all give some support to the idea that some dude named Jesus lived and was possibly crucified. But nothing Tacitus or any other Roman says has anything to do with whether this guy ever said a meaningful thing in his life. Its pretty inconsistent of you to take the Bible's word for the message and sayings of Jesus and not take its word for the miracles.

Sklansky would probably reject my point, though.