[Dan Druff]

It seems that the general consensus here is that Graycat's weird play began very shortly after the last major software update. If that's true, the chances of cheating having actually occurred and it being an inside job BOTH increase greatly.

It is very possible that AP hired on additional programmers to complete their most recent major overhaul of the site. It would make sense because they probably maintain few programmers for day-to-day maintenance (as there really isn't all that much work to do), while completely changing the look-and-feel of the site is a major undertaking. If we can assume that the existing programmers were honest, bringing unknown new faces into the mix increases the chance of a security breach exponentially. All it takes is one guy who realizes how much money changes hands at the high limit games, and how easy it would be to give an accomplice access to a superuser account that can see the cards.

Let me put it another way. If you were a relatively poor temp programmer from a third-world country, and you came to realize that simply slipping a few passwords to a friend could potentially make you hundreds of thousands of dollars with little possible consequence if caught, would you be tempted to do so?

Good Eats' theory is the best one I've heard so far. It appears that three accounts were used to cheat (GRAYCAT, DBLDRAG, STEAMROLLER), while two were used to receive dumped chips and NOT cheat (SUPERCARDM55, PIRATE_PKR). The two "honest" accounts, after receiving the dumped money from the cheaters, would then play 1 or 2 "legitimate" sessions where they'd play like maniacs and actually lose some (but not a lot) of money. Then they would request a cashout, thereby avoiding the scrutiny that might otherwise be placed upon the accounts that actually cheated.

The following questions need to be asked of AP. Hopefully we'll get an answer:

1) Has GRAYCAT, STEAMROLLER, or DBLDRAG ever cashed out since the software was patched?

2) How much play did SUPERCARDM55 and PIRATE_PKR have prior to the chip-dumping? How much play did they have afterwards? Did they seemingly just receive chips via dump, play 1 or 2 sessions, and request a cashout?

3) Where do the IPs of all 5 accounts resolve to? Do they match the IPs originally used on the accounts?

4) Do SUPERCARDM55 and/or PIRATE_PKR have addresses outside the United States? Do either of them live in the same country as those who programmed AP?

5) What relation do SUPERCARDM55 and PIRATE_PKR seem to have with the other 3 accounts? Were their IPs from similar areas? Chip dumping was clear, so why was it done, and who seems to be behind it? Will you (AP) at least admit that chip dumping occurred between these individuals?


The biggest problem here is that AP simply cannot admit to this if true. There is no way for them to refund anyone's lost money without implying that these accusations are true, and that a serious breach of security occurred. I like to think of myself as an honest guy, but if I owned AP, I'd also be steadfastly denying all of this. Admitting that this occurred is basically suicide for any poker room.