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Anyway, great CliffsNotes by apefish. Except that if one would be first timer to this AP cheaters topic, then THIS specific summary thread implicates Mark Seif in a much more serious way than if one would have read all the previous threads (including the 2006 Mike vs Seif thread). I mean, the cliffsnotes basically start off saying: "It was then brought up that these accounts are very likely the same person, perhaps Mark Seif." Yeah it says "was brought up", yeah it says "perhaps", but still, for the first reader it might very likely give the impression that DD == Seif, but there is absolutely no evidence to link Seif to the current cases (except the means used). If Seif really wasn't playing fair that time against Mike, it is more than likely he used similar means to cheat that DD+co did ('superuser account' or whatnot), but that still doesn't prove that Safe is behind the DD and/or the other cases.
Anyway, apefish, I already noticed that you brought this point up (at least I believe that you meant what I just said), but why is all it still there in the OP in the exact same form?
Apologies if I'm wrong : )

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I absolutely agree with the sentiment. I think the continuation in this thread shows that taking it out wouldn't have likely quelled it anyhow.
Adanthar asked the original cliffsnotes post by Imsa to start off this new thread- as such I didn't edit anything in there.
I addressed the other stuff in other replies. In retrospect I would leave it out but think I made it pretty clear where I stood on it.
If a mod wants to edit out that link and or the paint they are free to. I have no problem with that.
By the time any of it became an issue it was past the time allowed to edit. (in other words by the time I replied to teddyFBI's post).

I'll volunteer to do another cliffsnotes thread later today when this one undoubtedly gets ginormous and dragged down- and in that one I will take out the link/s to the Seif story- although so many people had already seen it, and it is still available in other threads elsewhere.

I would again strongly encourage people to not throw his name around lightly.

And also for Absolute to stop being dumbasses about this.