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Old 09-18-2007, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: 400: What a Sweet Ending

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I wouldn't check behind here because IMHO the value of betting the flop is greater than the deception it adds for later streets and to camouflage the fact that you sometimes check behind with AK. This flop is just to good for you, he could raise you here with a lot of pocket pairs or even air (you could also say I would bet here because of the fact I will C-bet a lot of hands here which would be air which villain knows of course). Besides any ace will slow down the action and villain is unlikely to give you a raise on the turn if you bet there. If the flop was like Q95r, I think a check behind would be better, because he won't raise you as often with pocketpairs.

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On a Q94r flop he has relatively more out than on our flop. Also, deception isn't the only reason for checking.

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Now what is your point here exactly? I mentioned the fact that checking behind is also to camouflage your AK hands, yeah and of course head off potcontrol but that is logical... My point is that I think betting out here has more value then checking behind, because you could have completely missed this flop and villain knows that so he might give you a lot of action.

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My point is that on a Q94r flop you should be more likely to bet than on our flop as he may have more outs.

The thing about pot control must not be THAT logical since it has caused so much debate here. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

You stated as deception vs. value and there is more reasons to check besides deception. That is why I said that.

I agree that you can bet if that is your read on your opponent. However, that is an exception to the rule.

There always is an exception.
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