[CincyLady]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I have seen it ruled almost every time a situation such as the above happens that when the person puts 100 into the pot, thinking they are calling, but they were actually facing a bet of 400, they are permitted to fold and forfeit 100, or to call 300 more. I have never seen the TD rule that they can take back all of the 100 and reconsider now that they know the true bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have seen this quite a bit recently and I don't like it one bit. I have always held the position that if it is ruled that it is a call they need to put in the whole amount or if they haven't called they can take their money out. When I first started seeing this ruling (around 2002 or 2003) I considered it a weak compromise by a floor that was unwilling to rule one way or the other (that the guy called or didn't call).

[/ QUOTE ]

RR, I think the version that Greg quoted is the most fair way to handle it, and to insure as well, that the person in question will in the future pay attention to the action, without penalizing him unfairly.

I've been caught by this rule myself, including where I've said raise thinking I was the first raiser.

I was then forced to raise it to twice what the other raiser raised.

If I wasn't paying attention, and just plopped say the normal blind in, like 100 bucks, and there had been a raise I had not been aware of (or if I acted out of turn, and said call, but the raiser didn't say the amount of his/her raise yet), my 100 bucks had to stay when the action truely came to me. I could fold, but that 100 bucks had to stay.

If I verbalized a call, and the raiser had said an amount, however, then the whole amount of the raise that the last raiser said, I would have to put that in.

I wouldn't like it, but it's a fair way to handle things.

It's the responsbility of EACH player to pay attention to the action at the table.

If they don't they have to pay the price, and IMO, this is the fair way to handle it.