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Without bothering with the hyperbole, do you think this guy was better or worse at governing than the average Western state?
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as bad or better than
this guy and
this guy
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I simply don't feel like having to cite a bunch more sources on Somalia without running into somebody pulling the "but if it's really bad, it doesn't count" line.
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again, if it actually doesnt count i dont know why you fear this dissent.
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So, if we're going to talk about Somalia's successful transition to anarchy, I'd like to establish the ground rule that Somalia is, at the very least:
1)largely anarcho-capitalist;
2)claimed by AC-ers to be a more successful territory than it would otherwise have been with a functional state.
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1) I agree its largely anarchistic. I dont agree its largely capitalistic. I dont agree its fully or none of either.
2) there is no such thing as a functional state. if in theory there were a functional state this obviously already implies it meets the mark. this is what we dispute. in addition, empirically, as far as history has shown, all "functional states" that you probably think of exist only in areas with the largest economic freedom throughout their history.
We are saying, however, that if there is more government control, whether democratic, communal, or dictatorially structured,
ceteris paribus, they will be worse off.
*edit in bold thanks to Borodog