[Sephus]

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Sephus, if I understood correctly, you are basing ethics on social norms and emotion (are you female btw?). Both of those things are based largely, if not completely, on random factors and change a lot.

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i'm not talking about ethics, i'm talking about morals, but it's not a critical distinction.

i'm not saying morality is "based on social norms and emotion," i'm saying morality is social. you're wrong that "social norms" are based on "random factors." there's nothing particularly random about it.

as for "changing a lot," first there has to be an "expected level of change" to make that judgment, and the fact that social norms change at all has nothing to do with anything.

i am male.

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Do you think killing jews in nazi-Germany was ok?

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no.

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Also, how can you then say it would be ok to rape a kid, when it clearly is against the social norm?

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who is saying it's OK to rape a kid? i said i would rape a kid if i thought i would enjoy it, that doesn't mean it's OK. i think it's disgusting. that's the biggest reason i wouldn't enjoy it.

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Also, intrinsic seems to be a better word for what I ment than inherit.

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yeah but it's still not entirely clear what it means.