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Old 09-13-2007, 01:57 PM
Sephus Sephus is offline
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Default Re: Biggest lie in the history of mankind

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there's no such thing as worth independent of desire.

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So you are a nihilist? I already pointed in OP that my reasoning is only valid if humans have inherit value. If abusing and killing people is ok (if you don't get caught), then doing the same to animals is ok too.

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you said "if humans have inherent rights," which doesn't necessarily mean their rights are something more than the way other humans treat them.

the only thing with inherent value is currency. which is strange, because the value is not intrinsic. do you see why?

abusing people is not OK, because people make it not OK. getting caught has absolutely nothing to do with it.

abusing animals is not OK either. you're begging the question.

someday eating animals could become not OK, but right now it's OK.
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