[apefish]

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but if you play low volume, low stake ring games, and you are in no way every going to get to be a supernova, and you have full tilt rakeback , its not even close.

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This is a huge part of the equation that those castigating Stars here assume to simply be true in order to windmill slam the debate in their minds.
Sure, under those conditions I think it's been pretty much conceded many would be better off switching to Full Tilt on a strictly extra dollars level.

The fact is it isn't true for a subset of people responding, and as such should always have the qualifier this post used.

In addition to those who were willing to take the time to do some math for OP, there were others (myself included) who pointed this fact out and have been dismissed.

In the world where you can get something or nothing, Stars wins every time here. You can't just eliminate that facet of the debate simply because you get rakeback.

OP said "it goes without saying that if PS had RB people would move there" or something similar.
It was said in an attempt to say "see I am right".
But the reverse of it is this...
If Full Tilt made rakeback available to a subset of people who don't have it for whatever reason they have decided, some people would also move their play there. But since they don't- the argument that I would benefit more by playing there is absolutely false for me and for those similarly situated.

This is an apples and oranges argument, and OP is the only one saying "Full Tilt has produce for everyone, and Stars has something they like to call produce but it isn't".