[ShaneP]

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Largay's book is awful.

I bought Largay's book and it has some absurdly awful information in it such as buying in for $100 in a 1-2 NL game and going all in with 82s preflop on the first hand against multiple opponents (I am not joking).

Buy and read any no limt book with Ed Miller's name on it.

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Well, you're kind of missing a bit...that is the example given, but it was him in late position calling a $20 bet (against a raiser and two callers with the blinds behind), and then calling the allin after 4-5 other people called the allin. What he was trying to get across is taking a slightly -EV gamble now for the opportunity to make future gambles much more +EV. Effective stack size is much higher, and you make yourself look like an idiot. All for about $10 of EV. And obviously the first call of $20 wasn't that much -EV, and the allin was for $80.

An example (though I think the guy just wasn't too good), I had a hand live where UTG I raised QQ, got a reraise right behind me, two callers, then I went all in (a few reads made me think I had the reraiser beat, and I wasn't worried about the callers). Other hands were JJ (reraiser), AJ, and T7s. I ran the numbers later, and found 18% for the T7, which means given $50 stacks (buyin is even smaller ugh...) in expectation he'll lose $14. Again, not great, but Largay's point is later if you hit that 20% or so, now you can play some of the other players at the table for (say) $400, and their mistakes are amplified. And in Largay's case, there were 6 total people in the pot--I don't remember the cards of the opponents, but (this is a guess) that might have almost been a 0 EV play--for a low hand to beat the possible higher pairs, it's gotta hit something pretty big and so probably doesn't lose a lot of pot equity versus the number of hands that are calling.


Shane

And keeping within the thread, I am halfway through Dominating..., and read all of Largay's book. At this point, I'd more recommend Largay's book, I found it a better and more enjoyable read. Although I've heard that Dominating... gets a lot better for the last 1/3 to 1/2, where the author really starts talking about how to play the way he recommends.