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If God created the Universe, there is no Universe?


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It should be obvious that if God created the universe then it's meaningless to talk about the universe without God.

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So what, the opposite is also true. If God didn't create the universe, then its meaningless to talk about the universe WITH god.

The statement "evolution makes god unessecary" says noting about his actual existance, it only makes option B - that is there is no god - just as valid as option A.

"Why not just say variation occurs, heck if I know why, instead of saying variation occurs by chance?"

chance is used in this sense to describe what effects the environment had. That is based upon a law that says every action has a reaction, one thing leads to another.

What must be taken on faith in both option A and option B is existance. Either the existance of the universe, or the existance of God. Since i have ample evidence that the universe exists, i will stick with that one.