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Old 09-07-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: X-Post: Man arrested for not showing officer his License

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The issue is whether the refusal to show receipts and allow inspection is sufficient to create reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. If so, then yes, detention is permitted. It is similar to provisions for "citizens arrest".

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Do you understand what you just wrote?

You are saying that refusing to consent to unlawful search is grounds to be searched.

You really hate freedom. It's scary.

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There has been no demonstration that its unlawful search. If it is then I agree. If thats your opinion say so. If you have facts, show them.

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But your entire grounds for argument that it is a lawful search is that, by refusing, he is creating suspicion of shoplifting. So under what circumstances could anyone ever refuse to be searched, and have it considered an unlawful search? Refusing = suspicion, and suspicion = legal cause, so therefore, the phrase "unlawful search" is meaningless and does not apply to reality.

This may actually be the correct interpretation, I'm not a lawyer, but it IS terrifying, and that I'm sure of, since I am a human being.
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