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Old 09-07-2007, 10:40 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves

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umm...even if the other two guys folded I think this may still be a fold.

The pot odds in Toni's post have been miscalculated, haven't they?

Pot is $248 (8 + 8 + 32 + 200)
$168 to call (200 - 32)
168/(248+168) =
168/416 =
40.38% pot odds, not 37.5% as previously stated
39.8% Stove odds

so now it's slightly -EV. Still calling?

And jeecross points out that stove results are unweighted. If you give more weight to pushing with AK here, then maybe call. I personally don't; I think AK is much more likely to call than push here, especially since he's in position, and AA/KK is much more likely to push than call here. fold.

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there is NOOOOO way that ak calling here would ever be a good play.

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??? AKs has better equity than QQ vs a range of AK, QQ+. AKo is only very slightly worse than QQ vs this range.
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