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Old 09-06-2007, 04:49 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: 50NL; AA vs. known 2+2\'er

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GtrHtr, that's fine. But if I bet or check/raise flop what do we expect to happen? I expect he folds everything except sets (I don't think AQ or the like is in his range). I took this line specifically because of the fact that he can 2 and 3 barrel me. I saw it as the only way to really get value from a worse hand than mine. You disagree I guess???


BTW what is "ffs".

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The reason you want to bet the flop is for value. In a rr'ed pot with a call pf, you will get a lot of value from AA oop by betting and getting worse hands to come along. Don't worry if they fold. If they fold to your flop bet or flop c/r then you got the most value out of your hand you were going to get.

So put him on a range, lets say he calls your 3 bet with TT+, AQs+. The only hand you are behind in that range is QQ on the flop. AQ will and AK may come along, AK thinking he still has 2 overs and AQ has flopped TPTK. TT is less likely but may call one street if you bet out, but fold to a c/r. JJ will likely still call but fold to a c/r. Both those hands you will get value only on the flop so betting or c/r doesn't really matter that much. QQ you're smoked, and KK will call or rr you the whole way if you lead or c/r.

Analyze all that info and determine your best line.

I'll leave the subject of slowplaying, which is what you did, to someone else but I will rarely slowplay at 100nl or 50nl simply because bad players will call with weaker hands all day long. This villain isn't a weak player on avg, but I wouldn't adjust my line regardless.

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All of your analysis is off based on the fact that this is not a 3bet pot. I raised in the sb and he called in the bb. Your mistake here now clears up and makes sense of the fact that you thought it important to say that he only has QQ here like 25% of the time. Reread the hand please. He of course has QQ here 0% of the time.

I certainly would have bet in a 3bet pot.

Here however, instead of a range of like TT-AA,AK I feel he has a range more like 22-88 and if I bet he'll mostly fold the ones that didn't make a set and call or raise with the ones that did. (He may float me with some missed sets and then would most likely fold to a turn bet if the turn doesn't set him.)
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