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Old 09-04-2007, 01:36 PM
CallMeIshmael CallMeIshmael is offline
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Default Re: A Question I got via PM

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A voluntary action is fair by definition. If the person partaking in it doesn't feel that its fair then... they voluntarily choose not to.

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For the most part I agree with this (easily greater than 99% of the time), but there may be exceptions. I posted this list in a thread regarding the debate as to whether all voluntary actions are just:

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1) Guy buys juice at store

2) Guy pays starving homeless man smallish amounts of money to eat dog feces on camera

3) Guy goes to foreign country and pays a 10 year old girl (who may or may not have been sold into the sex trade) for money

4) During a research trip to an isolated part of Alaska, a person comes down with some problem that causes him severe, non life threatening pain. The sole doctor says he is sure he can treat it, but says he will only do so if the man pays him his full life savings.

5) Same as above, but make it something like apendicitis, where we can be near certain the person would die if left untreated

6) I have to do nothing more than press a button to prevent some super villian killing you. Despite the fact that Im certain pressing the button will save your life and inflict upon me no pain, I still demand your life saving before pressing the button.

7) I hold a gun to your head and demand money

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Actions become less voluntary as you go down the list, and I think most definitions of 'voluntary' exclude the last, but, as far as I know, there isnt one agreed on definition of when an action loses its 'voluntaryness' and becomes a coerced act.



So, I guess, I might disagree with "A voluntary action is fair by definition", depending on the definition of voluntary.
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