[JackWhite]

Are we allowed to turn this into the offical fire Lloyd Carr thread? Probably not, since it will never happen. I just hope Lloyd will have some class and do the right thing and announce his resignation at the end of the season.

I wish I had confidence that we would do what other major programs have done recently, and NOT promote from within like we did with Moeller and Carr. The fact that we went outside of the program for our last 2 BB coaches gives me a little hope.

I have hated on Lloyd since he was defensive coordinator, where he loved the weak-tight bend but don't break defense. Hopefully this loss with convince the last few remaining Lloyd Carr apologists that he needs to go. If this doesn't, nothing ever will.