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Old 08-31-2007, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: Latest gay marriage flareup

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Animals can indeed "consent" and enjoy sex and seek mating opportunities.

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With humans? Do you have any evidence of this or are you pulling it out of your ass? And if what you say is true, then why do you think you have a right to stop them using violence or the threat of it?

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I don't; others do - some of the same people who support gay marriage. It is solely those people who I'm directing this at. And yes, it's a well known phenomena that animals can be trained to seek and enjoy sex with humans. It's also been said that creature like dolphins voluntarily submit to handlers.

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Uhh Phil, I think you've gone off the deep end here. Do you really think teenage kids sit in high school going "My god, what am I going to do to get my ass kicked more. I know! I'll start taking it up the ass."

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Absolutely. They think it's socially acceptable so they experiment with it. Confused sexual feelings (which are normal for many teenagers) get directed into perverted preferences. You should talk to some younger bi people, and their reasons for doing it.

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As for the other comments, people are confusing prohibition of gay activities with choosing not to socially recognize gay activities. Two very different things.

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I am open to evidence that homosexuality causes harm. Do you have any?

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Google http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...arch&meta=
for example. That's without counting AIDS, which gays disproportionately spread due to the dangers of non vaginal sex.

But there are more subtle social effects as well, which are harder to provide evidence for.

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Can you please address this part that you avoided: And if what you say is true, then why do you think you have a right to stop them using violence or the threat of it? And please expand to any form of consensual sex amongst moral agents in your reply, if you want.
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