[zasterguava]

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I don't know what's allowed here, I'm usually debate this stuff in SMP. But I don't think you can have a proper debate without putting your cards on the table, and what I said is at the core of the debate IMO.

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If 2 humans love each other I have no objection to them becoming married (does it affect us?). Why is it a peversion?

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If society was composed entirely of consenting adults, then it would be a different matter. But there are many who believe that society shouldn't recognize abnormal acts as valid.

Let me ask you if the following are perversions:

- Engaging in a voluntary transaction for sex
- Engaging in voluntary sex with a 15yo
- Engaging in voluntary sex with an animal

Most people are ok with discouraging these activities, on the basis that they are perversions that cause direct and indirect social harm (even though they're only done between two consenting parties). Why is homosexuality different?

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Your examples suck. I do not see the legal binding between the relationship of two consenting and loving adults as being a perversion or as being deprimental to society(in fact quite the opposite). Thus legal 'secular' marriage between 2 men/women is in my oppinion a non-issue.