[jjshabado]

Ok, about the car story. How hard is it to turn down that [censored]? Tell the guy to shut the [censored] up and give you the keys. I've never understood how people get talked into that crap when they don't want it. Nobody is holding a gun to your head to stand there talking to the guy. If the guys being a prick, don't put up with it, and DON'T be a pussy and give in. Thats what encourages this crap (although turning around and damaging the car might cancel out the original cave-in).