[kidcolin]

mt2r,

fly's right. What you're saying flies in the face of thermodynamics. Any fatass who eats less and exercises more is going to lose weight (see our beloved Dids for a real life example). It's guaranteed. Maybe in a year he'll have made no progress because he couldn't keep it up/had unrealistic goals/died of heart failure, which could very well be true for 95% attempting weight loss.. I dunno. But that's different than saying "food and exercise aren't shown to relate with body weight". That's ludicrous.