[TheEngineer]

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I agree with hollaballa.

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Hollaballa's only point is that we should all focus primarily on advocating Berkley's study bill, as the other bills have no chance, per stuff he read on the Internet. Is that what you're agreeing with?

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Engineer, first, let me say that I certainly applaud the effort you are making on many of the forums (2+2, eog, etc). You work very hard at this and I certainly respect you for that.

But, I'm just trying to through some reality into the situation.

This isn't stuff I just "read on the internet".

I'm actually in this business. I speak to some people pretty well in the know on a regular basis. I'm not just making stuff up.

It's just my opinion, and I know it's the opinion of a lot of people high up in the gaming business, that there's slim to no chance of just reversing the internet ban.

I know it's a violation of our civil rights...it was unfairly attached to the port security bill, etc.....

None of that really matters at this point. that's just reality.

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First of all, there is no Internet ban on poker. Our efforts keeping that true.

Please don't take my comments personally. They're not directed at your personally. However, I do have a right to address your comments concerning what we should do, and I fundamentially disagree with your ideas of us focusing only on the study bill. We should advocate it, and we are, but I think compromising at this point is a loser. We have every right to demand our rights, and we have a right to more than a study.

You've not proven what you think is "reality". Nor have you proven that the people who know what's "really going on" really know what's going on. Just because they run stuff in Vegas doesn't mean they know diddly about Washington.

We're not fighting for a quick fix. You act like it's this year or nothing. That's a mistake. We can lay the groundwork this year, keep the status quo, and bang away next year and the year after. None of this hurts the chances of the study bill passing.

You've not addressed my point that advocating IGREA and/or SGPA does more to advocate the study bill than anything else we could do.