[QuadsOverQuads]

wacki, I wish you the best, but you need to understand that you're not arguing with a rational person here.

This kid has cast himself into the role of Movement Representative / Evangelist.

He's not here to rationally examine all sides of an issue. He's here because he's convinced he's found a Movement that tells him what The Truth is. He's here to bring you the Good News, spread the light of The Conservative Gospel, and battle down the Evildoers (which is anybody who is not a convert to The Movement).

You're banging your head against a brick wall trying to reason with him, because you presume him to be engaging in the same rational discourse that you are engaging in. The reality is that he is NOT here for that purpose, and he has no intention of ever doing so. He's going to keep throwing talking points and Movement Citations at you for as long as he can engage you. Any response you create that doesn't fit The Movement's official truths will be ignored and forgotten as quickly as he can get it out of his head.

It's classic cultist behavior, and that's what you're dealing with when you're dealing with these people.

It's a very fundamental difference in each participant's perception of the ongoing dialogue. He's not listening, he's not here to further the dialogue, he's simply here to direct conversation in a precalculated direction, and to prevent dialogue where that can't be achieved. That's it, that's all.

You'd do much better to save your efforts for an opponent who was actually going to consider your arguments on the merits. Guys like Fl aren't going to.


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