Re: Hero folds?
Nice. I make one post drunk, then come back and do a sober one with some hard math and which one do you respond to?
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odds are the original bettor calls with his 2-8 outer so we still gain at least the other bb from him and i'm sure he'll pay off a river bet with a worse ace most of the time.
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And you can't get that river bet if you call?
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if you don't think a 6bb pot is worth protecting against as many as 6-14 cumulative outs i'm not the only one who needs to "rethink my math".
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It might be when one person was the one holding all of those outs. It's not when those outs are coming from 3 people put together. Also, your opponents never have 14 outs worth of equity, ever. They couldn't have that many if you handpicked their ranges which I thought I already demonstrated above.
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and Xhad, this all started when BBB said raisefolding the turn was "horrible". my REAL point was that it wasn't horrible and in some instances preferable.
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I might respect your argument if it were from a value angle; from the looks of it IF we're ahead we have around 80% equity at the worst. "Let's protect from 2-outers" is not an argument for raising though.
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