Re: How can gayness have a genetic basis?
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I have not said that gayness is unfit - I have said I do not see how it can be.
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Fair enough.
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that gay people do not find, or tend strongly not to find, members of the opposite sex attractive sexually.
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I haven't known a lot of gay folks well enough to ask them about this. All four that I have admitted that they found the opposite sex attractive in their youth (reproductive prime). I have no idea if this is common or not.
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Now that the gasps of shock have finally died down, can we move on from this, and away from the idea that once you find a gay man who had a kid, a lesbian who had a kid, then any curiosity about the reproductive fitness of gayness is irrefutably silenced? Because that's absolute bollocks. I am talking about tendencies over very long periods of time and I have made that about as clear as I possibly can.
I think a lot of people here are allowing the (potential) political dimension of this issue to cloud their judgement. To throw my hat into the ring, one of my best beloved aunts is a lesbian. I do not have a problem with gays. I am not trying to construct some 'reason' to hate them or look down on them or in any way impugn or call into question their right to life and liberty and all that jazz - I'm just talking about genetic theory. I sense hostility behind your words and I hope this will allay it.
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I don't know why you said this in a reply to me. I haven't said anything of the sort in any of my replies.
I am saying we evolved in polygyny. In polygyny women are reproductively dominant. In polygyny it is plausible that women could be lesbian and not be any less reproductively successful. In polygyny it is plausible lesbianism would confer advantages.
If this theory were correct it would mean current society should eventually breed gayness out if it can be bread out. Hardly seems politically motivated to say that.
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I sense hostility behind your words and I hope this will allay it.
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I am not hostile. I am frustrated that I keep talking about women and you keep replying about men. But that is partly my fault for my first post which was a mess.
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