[BryanC]

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wanting to knock players out seems absurd to me.


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We only want to knock out the blinds who play well. We're not expecting the limpers to fold -- instead, we want to play a pot against them, in position, that has a lot of their chips in it for us to win. And if the blinds do call, fine -- we're still in position in a large multiway pot with a well-disguised hand.

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Yeah I can see your point but IMO I think a preflop raise is gonna hurt our implied odds because we have less opponents and we're tagged as the preflop raiser its likley to dampen the action post-flop, if we just call i think we will find it alot easier to build a large pot on the flop with multiple opponents when he hit a big hand/draw. the fact that the 2 blinds are decent players doesnt bother me much because my hand is gonna be pretty well defined after the flop im likely to either wanna play it hard or not atall fair enough if we eliminate the blinds we win more pots when we hit a scabby pair etc but i dont think that compensates enough for the loss of multiway action.