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Old 08-02-2007, 01:51 AM
luckyme luckyme is offline
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Default Re: Better Restated Abortion Question

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If technology advances to the point where even young embryos can be saved after an abortion, will pro choicers claim woman will have the right to tell the surgeons not to save it?

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Yes. People have abortions because they do not want a specific potential person to become an actual person.

Stu

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I laughed at you in the other thread, I'm laughing at you now. Keep it up, though, you are on a roll.

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When you stop laughing, you'll look around and see everyone else staring at you funny. If it isn't already obvious to you yet, your pro-choice stance, and the one that DS caricatured in his other post, is in the minority -- at least in the replies on this thread, and almost certainly in society at large.

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The point is that DS and Stu's statements are far past caricatures. It's not the "hey, let's kill a baby today" that has women choosing an abortion it is variations of -
- I don't want to go through the pregnancy.
- I don't want to be a mother.
- I don't want the responsibility of raising a child.etc.

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I thought that's pretty much what Stu said:

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The purpose of abortion is to prevent a specific potential person from becoming a specific actual person. Women want abortions because they do not want to care for and raise a child. States allow women to get abortions because the do not want to care for and raise a child.

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Your child is kidnapped and the kidnappers tell you they'll have to kill her so she can't identify them. Using DS or Stu's reasoning "the kidnappers want to kill my child" it would never occur to you to offer to poke your childs eyes out to save her.
The 'women want to kill the fetus' claim is simply wrong-headed and misses the point in two directions. My 'untraceable fetus in Paris' example was meant to illustrate that aspect of the issue.

luckyme
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