[vhawk01]

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What has been a bit overlooked is that they weren't consistently mucking face up. It was usually done after a flop, and only at certain times. Again, given that they know each other, I assumed that they were selectively decided when and when not to muck face-up, and would imagine they were doing so when they thought it would provide good information to the other. Not a level playing field.

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See, this changes things, and is sort of what I was trying to get at with my arguments with skin city. If they are doing it constantly OR randomly, then it won't have any impact on fairness, although it might have an impact on perceived fairness, because the donks are going to remember the times it screws them more than the times it helps them.

But it is definitely possible to do this in a way that actually IS unfair. This is why I said originally that I don't agree with what POF said, and I WOULD make an issue about this, assuming he was doing it in some targeted way that benefits his buddy.

I hate nitting it up, I almost never enforce rules that I feel have no bearing on the game (like string betting and so on) although I don't complain when the dealer enforces them. I love a friendly game. But if a guy is obviously angling, I would nicely ask the dealer JUST ONCE and then immediately go over their head. The absolute last thing I'm interested in is having a big debate at the table, in front of everyone, slowing the game down, with the dealer.