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Old 07-30-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: PLO8 $100: AA hand meets resistance on flop

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First, I think this hand was correctly raised pre-flop.

Second: On the flop you have positions and its a check and it is a 1/3 pot bet to you. This bet screams "great drawing hand" to me. I would expect the player to have an open straight and probably A2 or A3 low draw...and quite possibly a flush draw too. I would not make it out of the question that the player has a 7 either and is looking to induce a raise. There is NO way I put in a raise the size you did in that spot. First of all, you have no idea where you stand in the hand, and second of all, by raising that big, you effectively give up your position advantage. I would either flat call with your hand, or min-raise for information. I think you gave away your whole advantage in this hand the way you played it.

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Of course its correct to raise preflop, a flat call is also fine.

But on flop I think there is no way we can define our hand because he will move all in with hands inlcuding 7 and also with the big draws like A23spades.

You min-raise and he shoves then what?
Or you call and then un turn comes an ofsuit 3 and he fires again. Should we call, maybe he is freerolling us now or maybe has us crushed with A27x, you will never now.

There is no inbetween choice, you either fold right away or play for stacks.

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That is why my first choice above was flat call, because if he re-pops my min-raise I probably must fold.

But I want to see what villian does if any card over 8 hits the board, or an A or a 2. Most of the holdings that don't include a 7 are much worse off if the turn comes with a high card, and would be making a mistake to bet the pot on the turn. I think almost half the cards that can come on the turn are cards that favor me in position-- and I would rather take that chance for $8 with the opportunity to fold in position if I don't like what I see.

If an offsuit 3 comes and he pots it I probably fold, but I have only lost $8.
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