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fwiw, i've really agreed with clayton and adanthar reading through the thread. but also agree w/ ucla that something must be done, but i dont really knnow what that can be, besides us all pointing fingers at jjprodigy.

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Part of what also irks me is the "defense" of ZeeJustin ("he learned his lesson" etc.). I pretty much got over it awhile ago, only to read ZeeJustin bragging about signing a deal with Bodog. I couldn't believe it when I read this, both in that Justin apparently could care less that the whole thing is going to be brought up again, and that Bodog would be so stupid as to sign a player with his history. This is what I mean when I say the sites just don't care about the cheating. They will make a passing effort, sure, if something is blatant, but in the end it is all about bottom line, and if they think Justin even with all his history is worth getting "Bodog" on television at a final table, they are more then willing to make the deal.

So, I think in order to change the overall culture, the current culture has to be fully exposed. I think the short-term damage can be minimized by properly writing the article (i.e., overall the games appear to be fair, but like any sport these days, there are small segments of cheaters, and we as a community have to police ourselves and do everything we can to make the games fair). But in the end, I think transparency and forthrightness is what are going to change the perception of poker in general, not quietly looking the other way when major sites sign known former cheaters.