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Old 07-21-2007, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: You make the call

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You don't have a problem with player A? He has quite an advantage here if he opens his mouth. If he hadn't actually seen his hand, I could let it slide, but this would look like an obvious angle.

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I don't like what player A is doing, but this is effectively at this point a heads-up match and there's never been any requirement that players be truthful at the table. If player A said "you can fold now, I have J6" would you be upset? I'm just not seeing "you can fold, he has J6" as much different. Yes, it's an angle in my book, but it's one of those acceptable if distasteful angles. NEVER believe what another player at the table says.

There's also the point that player B just needed to engage his brain a bit. Player B should have replied to A "if he really had J6, why don't you go ahead and muck now?" Player A is not telling B "he had J6" if A has a better hand. So clearly A is trying to sell to B that C has the best hand. Why would A do this if he can't win the pot, either? Just trying to screw C out of A's call? Not likely.

What throws a wrench in to B's ability to puzzle it out is another player throwing in the confirmation. Now he has to try to figure out why an uninvolved player would lie and since there is no obvious upside to it, I understand him pitching his cards in. He got cheated. Not so much by A lying to him, but by the uninvolved player confirming it.
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