Re: A hand
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Just becuz the hero's hand is likely to be ahead of the villain's 3betting range does not necessarily mean that capping is the best play...As you know, limit hold 'em is a multi-street game.
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Could you be any more condescending? Are you seriously telling me that hold 'em is a multi-street game? I realize my response was brief, but your response is long-winded and insanely basic. I did not say to fourbet every time if we believe we are ahead of his range. I said to fourbet every time if his hand range includes hands we dominate and he will continue to play bizarrely postflop. This is the crux of the position here. I know that there are many times where, in position, we can afford to disguise our hand and expect to gain more bets later on. Believe it or not, I have played a few hands of limit hold 'em.
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Holdem is too complicated of a game to ever say that capping is absolutely madatory.
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No, it isn't. There are certain times where it is absolutely mandatory. When you have the absolute nuts on the river while heads-up, putting as many bets in as possible is mandatory. When you have aces in a ten-way pot and you can either call the third bet and close the action, or make it fourbets, it's mandatory. There are certain times where, mathematically, it is insanely stupid not to cap. This is NOT one of those times. This time, it's a combination of the math(you have a very good chance of being a 2:1 favorite, at least according to Clark's original post) and the fact that our opponent will still give us plenty of action regardless of our cap. This is true in many high-stakes games, especially against opponents who aren't as good as we are.
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Against certain opponents it may be best to pass up our edge preflop, depending on how our opponent will react postflop to the hero's cap versus the how the villain will react postflop if the hero just calls the 3bet.
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I believe this hand is evidence that our opponent falls into the category of "we should take our edges every time we can get them, because he will continue to give us plenty of opportunities for more money on later streets regardless of the strength we show," as there are very few hands he could have here that he has played well against Clark's range and table image.
So please, save your essay on why 4-betting preflop with the best hand is "sometimes not the right play." I have considered this before. Instead of jumping on what you believed to be a mistake, you should have read my close more carefully. While it was short, you managed to miss half of the reason I gave why fourbetting was best.
-James
EDIT: I just noticed that you saw Clarkmeister say basically what I did(except that he elaborated more) and now you agree. Oh well, maybe you learned something from this post anyway and will read posts more carefully, so you won't have to take ten times as long to come to the correct decision.
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