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Old 07-17-2007, 12:08 PM
JooWish622 JooWish622 is offline
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Default Re: 100-200 Live: Thin River Value Bet?

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Not so thin..this is a black and white protect your bluffs value bet. If you'd ever fire off 20k with QJs here then you need to bet the ace. You start checking back top pair in a spot like this and you'll have a tough time firing 2 or 3 barrels in the future against observant opponents. You are likely ahead, and you gain a ton of value if he doesn't call, too, for obvious reasons. Be interested to hear what he had(and who he was for that matter).

James

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Nice post. Could you explain what the obv value of him not calling would be, besides not having to show down your hand.

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becaus if villain sees you checky checky two pairy he thinks next time when you take this line and bet river that you have nutsy nutsy or bluffy bluffy cause you no betty two pairy

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Hero doesn't have two pair, he has top pair bottom kicker

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hm yeah i got confused by the JooWishes post and my post was drivel anyway

When i read OP i wasn't sure about the bet, when I read JooWishes summare (who said the board was K32QA) I was obv pretty sure about a bet.

As played in OP, pot is huge by the river and even though our flop/turn combo may look bluffy (which obv makes the float not so great), betting the ace does look kinda strong, even though there are a ton of draws that missed. If we'd bet it, i'd bet strongly though, exactly for the reasons James282 mentioned. We may get called by worse which will make up for our failed attempt to bluff on earlier streets and our future river bets will be much harder to read. I'd fold to a check/raise.

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