[Jorge10]

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I guess my feel for raising here is this: shouldn't we want to put pressure on a naked-A2 to have to call a big bet here?? I know I said the FE here is probably zero (or damn close to it), but don't we want to try to knock out that other A2 thus massively increasing our equity in the hand???

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A2 is never folding here unless its a hopeless A2 and the player is pretty good. It would have to be A29Q or something really out of it for high. Most A2 type of hands would have some sort of draw for high, which combined with the nut low makes them call.

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The flop bettor had 8752
The preflop raisor had A842

The OP had 41% equity in the pot...I think this all comes down to trying to figure if the original bettor on the flop has a set...If he doesn't have a set I think raising the flop is the correct play...

I don't think calling is a bad play, but I think potting here might be a better play to accumulate chips early in the tourney...


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I think it was very lucky that the bettor had bottom two here. It doesnt matter if the players are terrible in these tourneys. Most should be able to tell when they have a good hand. The bettor did. He was saying exactly what I thought with his bet, "I have Aces beat and I dont want any more cards." He happened to have the crappiest hand that could beat aces in this case, but still if he had aces crushed why would your top pair be any good? If you had raised you would be hoping that the low would get there or that somehow you could draw out on him for high, that is if you werent drawing dead for high. Not a great long term strategy.

I know that top pair and nut low look amazing and seem unbeatable, but you said it yourself. The people in tournaments are terrible players who will be in there with anything. A set is not really unusual in omaha. I think calling here with top pair and nut low is the difference between cash games and tournaments. In a cash game I shove this flop all day because I can reload and because people are less likely to be in there with 77 or 88 so I am only thinking about KK. In a tournament though, 77 and 88 are more likely since people are much worse.