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Old 06-02-2005, 05:10 PM
olliejen olliejen is offline
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Default Re: Six Max Baby Steps

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later positions in full ring (check out Ollie's hand in the second thread, too - not only his good play, but his last sentence).

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Without question he played the hand correctly, but I don't know if I agree with the last sentence, and frankly it sounds results-oriented (Ollie can chime in if I'm wrong). Playing hands like that in position against passive, predictable players lets you get good value when you're ahead and get away easily when you're behind.

Didn't mean to nitpick - nice post.

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i'm no authority by any means and you gents may be right that i'm being too results-oriented. my belief was/is that when the pot is small and my equity thin or unknown so it's not a mistake of great magnitude.

i mostly agree with your post; the small edit i'd make is that you can get good value when you're ahead and stay ahead.

a large part of my struggles when i went from .5/1 to 1/2 was that with tighter, more passive opponents, it was harder to get a sense of the likelihood that your equity has changed from street to street. for some LPP's, a call on the flop is enough to warrant a turn-check and river fold UI. for others, a call means nothing and villain is peeling. w/ a LPP you haven't observed closely or have that many hands with; how do you get away from it when there's no pushback?

now some might say, "well, that is true of any pocket pair" however, the higher the pocket pair, the better it fares on more boards vs. an unknown hand.

it may be a mistake to pass up these situations, but given the pot size i think it's a small mistake & i'm more than willing to admit that i just may not be good enough to make those holdings profitable yet.

until i get there, i generally use pot size + my crude but developing sense of what my equity is as my guide.

in the interest of full-disclosure, i will admit that i'm a horrid HU player and only slightly less horrid SH-player. my full-ring game is slightly less terrible than that, but always hopefully getting better. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

edit: fantastic post, btw Wookie! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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