[Mook]

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and yea i agree with you totally when you say that if guys aren't adequately punishing you by isoing or positional play pre or postflop in your live game, then that kind of hand becomes much more playable and probably only slightly -ev. i am used to tight aggro games online. so we basically agree on more than we disagree.

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Yeah, I live an hour from AC so I basically play live exclusively ... generally 4/8, 6/12, the kinds of games where people occasionally have a clue about preflop play but for the most part act like they have the Lee Jones book open in front of them on the table. When you're talking 5-6 to a flop, 10% of pots getting raised, hours going by without a street getting capped, A5s isn't "slightly -EV". It's solidly profitable most of the time. Maybe slightly -EV first or second in from EP, but that's worst-case. Now if you're talking 3/6 online vs. a bunch of 22/15 TAGs, then yeah, A5s is going in the muck unless I'm on the button or CO, but the next time I see this at a live 6/12 game will be the first. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I kinda hate that we've found ourselves down this rathole when I'd much rather be debating the relative merits of donking vs. CR'ing this T52 flop ...

Mook