[Howard Beale]

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Results: Did it accomplish anything?

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Not yet.

I raised because for the extra price of one small bet I may get a few players to fold and increase my chances of winning this big pot if I improve. Plus, if it turns out that no one has a flush draw (and who knows if anybody does, large field or not, with this crew) I can represent if a spade comes on the turn if I can get most of them to fold. I have a few backdoor draws to go w/ my pair. I've got at least a call, and good reasons to raise.

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I don't like the call preflop if she can only have AA or KK.

Also, if she is anywhere close to being competant, your raise might clear everyone else out, but you are getting 3 bet for sure. So pretty much what you are doing is helping her clear the field with her hand but reducing your implied odds if you hit your hand.

Another thing. What good does representing a flush do for you? No one in that game will fold AA postflop ever, and you know that probably better than anyone else in this forum.

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It would've been helpful to spend a bit of time on player descriptions. SB and I are long time friends but she is petrified of me. She's decent enough to be a winner in the game but makes mistakes galore. I've had her leave the game when I sit down. I have a decent chance of manipulating her. Secondly, the table was full of 'bleeders'. If I hit a hand they are paying allllll the way. The only player in this hand with a big pair is SB. Somebody else could've flopped 2 pair or a set or anything else they wouldn't fold but I can't know that and besides trying to clear the field and get out the weaker hands and those inclined to try for runners I get better info on where I'm at for what I think is a small price given the size of the pot. The pot's big and I'm not thinking (should I be, at this point?) about implied odds and wanted to do that which gave me the best chance to win the thing.

Anywhere, here's what happened. I'll put it far down the page for those who don't want to know:












After I raised everyone folded to the button (I had him on my 'plays decent list') who called and I'm thinking he's got the draw. SB just called.

Turn:

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SB bets (tyvm) I raise, button calls (that's the flush draw for sure, right? Right? Right?!!!!!) and SB calls.

River:

Blank. SB checks, I bet, Button calls (uh-oh), SB flashes her AA and folds, I say I've got a 10, Button asks 'What's your kicker?' and wins w/ the Q-10o. I puke.

My flop raise was intended to fold that kind of hand. He's got to know he was up against a big pair, the board's 2-suited w/ 2 straight cards and there's a raise and he called w/ Q-10o. I take him off my 'plays decent list' but leave myself on it due to ego reasons.

Edit to add:

I'm having my house remodeled. The crew will be here in an hour. I've got to unhook the computer now and will be gone for a few days. See you all in a bit.